Thursday, September 27, 2007

On Libertarianism

Communist niigiim daraa Mongold uussen uzel bodliin vacuum dotor mash zuv maneuver hiij amjilttaygaar huch turen garch irsen ideology bol yah argaguy "libertarianism" mun. Altan Taria Companiin zahiral P. Tsenguunii sanhuugiin demjleg, MUIS-iin Philosophiin Tenhimiin bagsh B. Batchuluunii credible comment-uud (busad humuusiin talaar endees delgerenguy harj bolno), Baabariin orchuulsan nomuudiin ur dund ene uzel yalanguya minii uyeiihnii dund mash infuential bolson. Unuudur Mongold duriin oyutnaas ochood turiin talaar uzel bodliig ni asuuval uuduus chini "danhgar tur"-iin tuhai onoliig yag yug ni sain medehguy murtuu ba beguy yariad unaval neg ih gaihaad heregguy.

Hediigeer ene ni neg talaaraa ardchilsan niigmiin salshguy negen heseg bolson individualism-iig shine uyeiihend taniulan meduuleh mash chuhal zuil bolovch nuguu talaaraa Karl Popper-iin unuuh "open society" deeree heldegchlen niiteeree tsor gants "unend" itgeh ni daranguilald hurgeh ayultay (ene talaar George Soros-iin "The Capitalist Threat" niitleliig sanal bolgoyo). Iim ch uchraas baruund liberal arts education-g chuhalchilj hicheeluud deeree buh l "ism"-uudiig adil tegsheer avch uzen sain/muu taliig ni niiteeree il todoor heleltsetsgeedeg (sanal bolgoh nom: David Denby "The Great Books"). Magadguy uunii ur dund baruund humuus ni open-minded baij ardchilal ch jinhene utgaaraa hugjdug baih. Gehdee bi end Libertarianism-iig muulah gesenguy. Magadguy ali arvan jild baihiin shimten sonirhoj ehelsen ene ideology shig minii yurtuntsiig uzeh uzeld nuluulsun zuil baihguy baih. Odoo ch ene uzel bodliig demjdeg heveeree. Gehdee ediin zasgiin tal deer bol bish (WSJ deer bichseneer bol libertarianism ni "economic conservatism and social liberalism" gej alban busaar todorhoilogddog). Ene talaar Hashaa-giin bichsen post-iig unshij uzeerey http://hashaa.blogspot.com/2007/01/blog-post.html

Unuudur harin sanaandguygeer Olloo-goos Batchuluun guayn neg niitleliig olj unshiv. Niitleliin tolgoi deer ni yagaad ch yum "L'Anarchia" geed bodvol Spain-iin Second Republic-iin uyed baisan POUM-iinh bolov uu gemeer ajilchin angiin alh barisan zurag tavichihaj (dashramd duridahad POUM-iin talaar Ken Loach-iin "Land and Freedom" gej tasarhai kinog uzehiig zuvluyu). Uul ni munhag minii sanaj baigaagaar libertarianism ni anarchism-aas neleed yalgaatay ed l dee. Anyway, Batchuluun guay niitlel deeree Mongold libertarianism-iig herhen guivuulj, uls turchid uursdiihuu yavtsuu erh ashigt herhen ashiglaj bui talaar neleed gomdolloson aystay zuils bichij. Medeej hereg hun turulhtnii setgelgeenii hugjliin talaar adgiin naad zahiin systemtey medlegeguy humuuseer hahaj tsatssan manai uls turd uuniig guivuulj, buruugaar tailbarlah ni baih l uzegdel. Harin ch ene zeregtey huleej avch baigaa ni saishaaltay met. Yutay ch tuunii niitlel deh neg sanaag ni yuruusuu oilgogdsonguy:

Монголчуудын либертари vзэл гэдэг софт-стэйтизм тєдий зvйл юм гэж vv?!

"Либертари улстєрч" уг нь ийм утгагvй хэллэг хаана ч байхгvй биз. "Либертари" гэсэн vг нь хувь хvнийг хvсээгvй байхад тvvний амьдралд хєндлєнгєєс оролцох ёсгvй гэсэн утгыг илэрхийлж байдаг бол "улстєрч" гэсэн vг нь хvссэн хvсээгvй сая сая хvний амьдралыг захиран, удирдан жолоодох гэсэн утга илэрхийлж байдаг. Гэтэл тэд "либертари тєр" гэсэн тун хачин зvйлийг бий болгох гээд зvтгээд байдаг! 'Хаана ч байхгvй (байх ч аргагvй) ийм тєрийг улстєрчид ид шидээр бvтээж, жирийн иргэд амар сайхандаа жаргаж, либертари vзэлтнvvд тэр тєртэй нь тас тэврэлдээд vлгэр тєгсєх юм байлгvй.

Genet ungursun 7 sard WSJ-iin Op-Ed deer unshij baisan neg niitlel sanaand orloo:

Libertarians and the War

During [Republican presidential debate on May 15], the riveting exchange between Rudy Giuliani and Ron Paul about whether American foreign policy provoked the 9/11 attack raised the visibility of both candidates. When Mr. Paul, a libertarian, said that the 9/11 attack happened "because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years," Mr. Giuliani's retort -- that this was the first time he had heard that "we invited the attack because we were attacking Iraq. . . . and I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for September 11" -- sparked a spontaneous ovation from the audience. It was an electrifying moment that allowed one to imagine Mr. Giuliani as a forceful, articulate president.

Hervee bi buruu oilgooguy bol "libertarian uls turch" gej lav baidag l yum baina. Bur Amerikiin Yurunhiilugchid ner devsdeg geech :P

+ Ayn Rand’s Literature of Capitalism, Монголын Либертари Сан, Libertarianism entry in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, The Cato Institute: libertarian think tank

4 comments:

Achbold said...

Hey Tuvshee! OK, here's what I think:

Mongoliin zaluuchuud tiim libertarian bolson yum baihgui, haramsaltai ni. Liberal sangaas gargasan nomnuudiig zaluuchuud unshij baigaa, gehdee niit zaluuchuudiin mash baga huvi ni.

Mongoliin default ideology bol democratic socialism. Mongold zuunii uzliin influence mash huchtei. Mongoliin jiriin negen irgen nom unshij, huneer zaalgahaas naash libertarian uzeltei bolohgui. Mash olon humuus "bayan yaduugiin yalgaa nemegdseer baina" geh metiil oilgolttoi baidag. Socialist zaluuchudiin holboo-goos avhuulaad zuunii uzliin baiguullaguud mash ih. Gishuud ni ch olon (zuunii uzlee oilgodog, oilgodoggui ch).

Tegeheer bi l lav Mongold libertari uzliin tuilshraliig olj harahgui baina.

On a side note, you can't be a libertarian and a libertarian socialist at the same time. They're simply incompatible, contradictory. If you don't support "economic libertarianism," then you're not a libertarian. There's no freedom without economic freedom.

For libertarians, there's no difference between socialism/Marxism and libertarian socialism. Their fundamental assumptions are the same. In answering Marx's "manufacturing consent" argument, John Stuart Mill wrote, "the labour of manufacture is only one of the conditions which must combine for the production of the commodity. The labour cannot be carried on without materials and machinery... All these things are the fruits of previous labour." This is a really important argument!

I think we should talk about this more, for the sake of learning, of course! I hope you come to a school in New England, so we can meet up and debate this! :)

Achbold said...

Hey, bi "manufacturing consent" gedgiig shal oor utgaar bichsen shuu. Chomsky-giin nom bol "tor consent-g media-gaar uildverlej baina" gesen garchigtai.

Marx-iin "manufacturing consent" argument bol ene (chi medne dee): Ajilchin ooriinhoo hodolmor, utga uchiriig buteesen zuildee shingeedeg. Ter buteegdhuuniig ni uildveriin ezen avdag. Uugeeree proletariat-uud bourgeois manufacturer-iin bool boldog.

Tegeheer "manufacturing consent" shal oor hoyor utgatai...

Achbold said...

Mill ter Marx-iin argument-d hariu ogood baigaa yum. OK, sorry for spamming your blog! See ya.

Renegade said...

libertarianism is a symptom of post-modern individual impotence. aimar ih hashgiraad l baidag, getel yamar ch chimee gardaggui.